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Rumor: HDMI port coming to 360?

Engadget ran a rumor a few days ago about the possibility of the Xbox 360 getting an HDMI port. I don't know anything about this (and couldn't share if I did), but I did want to share some thoughts about what I think Microsoft should do if this were the case.

I may be showing my age here, but I remember back in the 90's when Intel had a floating point bug in the Pentium processor. I won't go into all the details, but the gist of the problem was that in some rare cases, the processor would return a slightly off value. Most independent evaluations of the bug said that it wouldn't affect users in the slightest, and Intel offered to replace the processor to those users who could prove it affected them (but not all users). This quickly turned into a PR nightmare as consumers clamored for a general replacement policy. I recall talking to some of the marketing folks who were at Intel at the time, and they talked about how adamant Andy Grove was about not replacing the processors. He was approaching it from an engineer's perspective, and as he saw it, if the users couldn't even see the bug in their daily use it was an unneccessary cost to go and replace them.

External pressure from consumers grew, and the marketing and PR teams starting having almost daily meetings with Andy to explain to him that in spite of it being not logical, people felt very passionately about the issue and that the negative press was piling up. In the end he capitulated and agreed to replace all flawed processors at what could have been significant cost. What actually happened was that very few people took Intel up on the offer, consumers felt as though Intel had listened, and the day the announcement was made the stock actually rose.

I personally see a possible HDMI port for the 360 as being a similar issue to Microsoft. Other than taking away one of Sony's few differentiating factors, it's not really going to do much for existing gamers. A few will want it to use it to connect to their HDTV, and some will want it to playback HD-DVDs that might enable the image-constraint token in the distant future. For those few, my opinion is that Microsoft should offer some sort of upgrade program - even if it's one where you pay some reasonable amount for the upgrade. I doubt many people would actually take the company up on it, but the goodwill would be significant, and our core users (that's probably you!) wouldn't felt left out in the cold.

This is obviously all my personal opinion, and I don't even know if Microsoft will need to consider these issues in the future. But the whole scenario just seemed so eerily similar to the Intel floating-point bug issue that I thought I'd share. Enough deep thoughts for today. :)

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Eastbeast314 said:

I completely agree. Very few people who want an HDMI output are going to want to part with their 360 for a week or two. Microsoft would get a handful back, send out new ones, and be able to sell the used consoles a second time. A little work, a lot of good publicity.

Also, keep up the great blog! Opinion is easy to find on the Internet. Insight isn't. Thanks!

# July 12, 2006 9:18 PM

StreetChariot said:

I'm not against adding a HDMI port to the back of the Xbox 360, but I would be happier if Microsoft held it off as an "Upgrade Only" option. Adding it to consoles down the line would only create a heavier churn of older Xbox360's that would fill the market with used/not-to-par systems that would inevitably break or fail and cause a PR headache. Offering HDMI as a trade-up upgrade would be a benifit for two reasons. 1. Microsoft would be able to control the re-introduction of older motherboards into refurbished units (reducing the churn of dead units) 2. It allows xbox 360 owners the opportunity to upgrade when they want to, and doesn't pressure them to buy a new unit, just because it's "the only way" to get HDMI.

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# July 12, 2006 9:36 PM

Enzo304 said:

I don't care about HDMI yet.  I've only had my 50" LCD for a few years, but it doesn't have one.  If it's required to use 1080p, I think I might survive without it.  720p is fine for me.

# July 12, 2006 11:10 PM

DM2 said:

I still play my 360 on a standard 20" Sony TV, the damn thing just won't break. So a HDMI port is of no use to me whatsoever.

As to how MS should handle this if and when it does happen, a trade in sounds like an easy idea, but it would be very expensive for MS unless they only allowed a small amount for the old 360. An upgrade to the mother board may be cheaper but of course people would be without their 360's for some time.

I can see it all going horribly wrong, the number of people who seem vocal about the strangest things, for example the frogger download being a couple of hours late to give them something like HDMI being included would mean they would fill the worlds blogs in a matter of hours.

There again perhaps it's a big plan on MS's behalf to allow them to get on with XBLA etc in relative peace while the vocal few rant and rave about HDMI ports....

# July 13, 2006 7:24 AM

HcC said:

I'm perfectly happy using my xbox 360 on my 32" HDTV as it is. I don't really think there is any kind of uproar about it.

# July 13, 2006 11:52 PM

chriscla said:

I think that the situation you describe with Intel and the situation with the XBox 360 are different beasts.  In the Intel case, there was a bug but it didn't really affect people.  For HDMI on the 360 it is a much more obvious feature and I think people will perceive a greater effect then they may actually be experiencing.

With the large marketing push behind HDMI, people are going to want it because they are A/V geeks and they are being told that it is much better.  These are the same people that go out and upgrade their USB and CAT-5 cables to the Monster brand because they think that everything will be better.  My contention is that there are a lot more people who will do this then those that would get their Pentium's fixed.

# July 14, 2006 8:58 AM

Ambivalence said:

If possible, I think the best resolution would be to make it part of the HD-DVD expansion. If it were usable for gaming as well of course.

Simple upgrade path, more capabilities... everyone wins.

I could use HDMI now, i was a bit cheesed off that there were neither DVI or HDMI connections on the 360. But all things considered... its beautiful without them.

# July 14, 2006 12:14 PM

The Good Ed said:

First off, Andre, awesome blog!  It's refreshing to see such straight commentary on the industry from someone who's actually a part of it.

As for HDMI's implementation in future iterations of the 360, part of me has to ask: why?  HDMI is necessary on the PS3 to facilitate the pass-through of a 1080p signal, but this I/O  standard does nothing for 360 games, whose resolutions top off at 720p or 1080i.  Until Microsoft begins installing HD-DVD drives internally in the 360, HDMI is irrelevant.  

# July 15, 2006 1:07 PM

Project RHP said:

Personally, I like the simplification of hooking up one cable for both video and sound to my HDTV, not to mention the reduction in clutter behind my TV.  And while I can't speak for anyone beside myself, I would welcome such an option if it were available.

# July 20, 2006 8:16 AM

Gadderley said:

1. Andre, love the blog. My new home page.

2. Personally the HDMI doesn't make sense, because I don't think the add-on HDDVD doesn't make sense.

If Microsoft was going to make the effort to create a trade in program for an HDMI ported X360, why not got to the effort of offering an integrated HDDVD. I'd pay the difference, I'm sure enough of us would! It would save me from buying another machine.

There was such an effort to create a sleek sexy enclosure, why create an add-on and clutter the whole thing up? And unless there was an added benefit to gaming through HDDVD or BlueRay for that matter -- but to my understanding there isn't -- then what the hell is the point?

Seems like a waste of time and money for nothing more then the ability to needlessly remain competitive on a features list against the PS3.

# July 20, 2006 8:35 AM

RaZoRsharp1987 said:

Im not a technowhizz, but i wanted a connection to a vga monitor, hence the vga adapter cable, isnt it more likely, if at all possible we will just get a HDMI adapter.

Plus, if Microsoft do offer to replace their consoles for HDMI slot wielding machines, id take them up on the offer, not becuase i want a HDMI slot but becuase i think my 360 is getting old. So maybe it isnt such a good idea for MS to do it.

# July 20, 2006 8:59 AM

gwolf said:

Why isn't it possible to put an HDMI port on the back of the HD DVD add-on? I am very interested in the add on myself. It would be nice to have some future proofing, should they ever use ICT's.

Truthfully I don't think the studio's would fall on their swords like that. We would all just go and buy a much cheaper standard definition copy of the same movie.

# July 21, 2006 8:34 PM

Jotham said:

The comments are pretty interesting to me.  Obviously gamers and A/V geeks don't necessarily overlap.  Personally, I have a projector and running just one connection to it is ideal.  The hdmi connection is the most elegant approach to get me the one cable situation that will handle DVD, Blu-ray/HD-DVD, Xbox 360? and anything else that comes down the road.  DVI should work as well but that doesn't seem to be an alternative either.

In the meantime, I am doing a total kludge using my 360 outputting vga plus a VGA upscalar for DVD through a vga switcher.  It's ridiculous and the only reason I am doing this crappy manual switching approach is because my 720p capable Xbox doesn't support HDMI or DVI.  A next-gen box with a prev-gen video output...

That said, it looks fantastic now.  PGR on a 100" screen is truly amazing (and horrifying when I crash)

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