Quantcast VideoScan's High-Def Disc Sales Numbers - Ozymandias

VideoScan's High-Def Disc Sales Numbers

I had a couple of folks ping me asking my thoughts about this article over at highdefdigest.com. Specifically, they were curious on my thoughts on the data that seems to show Blu-ray disc sales catching up to HD-DVD disc sales.

The charts in question are below:

 

I considered writing something earlier, but didn't because unfortunately there's just not enough data to show a trend. All we really can see here are two weeks of sales that seem to show Blu-ray beginning to close the gap in sales. What we really need to see is at least a few months of sales so we can look for trends - and I doubt we'll really get a sense of things until toward the end of the year.

The problem is that there are so many wildcards and unknowns in the equation. Are the increasing Blu-ray sales due to PS3 finally having gone on sale? It's quite possible - certainly some percentage of PS3 owners are interesting and willing in using the system to play Blu-ray discs. What's impossible to measure is how many of those people are buying discs to play because there aren't games, or because they're just curious about Blu-ray? Imagine a hypothetical world where 4-5 AAA PS3 exclusive titles were available at retail. How much would that impact the Blu-ray sales above? My gut is that it would, and significantly... but it's hard to measure.

Another possibility is that the quality of HD-DVD releases just sucked in the period above (I haven't seen any particularly compelling releases lately myself). It's such a short timeframe that it's quite possible that sales dropped to a lack of compelling content. That's another reason we'll need to look over the long haul.

What'll really be telling is what happens over this next year and through holiday. It's certainly possible we'll be seeing price cuts on a variety of high-definition playback devices: stand-alone players, add-ons to consoles, or game consoles themselves. That should help spark disc sales as well, and hopefully help the trendline to be a bit clearer.

The funniest thing? This whole disc-based "battle" is pretty much irrelevent. Five years from now we'll have plenty of options to get high-definition video content over the net, and physical disc-based media will be dead. The real battle is getting the distribution pipelines into place that can deliver high-quality content quickly to consumers, enabling scenarios they both want and can easily use. That's probably a whole other article for the future, but I'll give you a hint - it's one of the reasons I'm so high on Live, and Microsoft's work with IPTV and video distribution on the Xbox. We're just seeing the tip of the iceberg right now. Heck, even my favorite DVD rental provider Netflix is enabling streaming downloads of movies to your home. Whether or not streaming to a PC connected to a TV is the right answer or not (probably not, in my opinion), it's a great experiment. It will be interesting to see where this all evolves to.

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IPTVision said:

[Source: Ozymandias] quoted: Specifically, they were curious on my thoughts on the data that seems to show Blu-ray disc sales catching up to HD-DVD disc sales. The charts in question are below: I considered writing something earlier, but didn't because

# February 4, 2007 8:37 PM

imaginedbug said:

"Five years from now we'll have plenty of options to get high-definition video content over the net, and physical disc-based media will be dead."

That's a load of bull. Sure, downloadable music is great and has taken a huge chunk out of CD sales. But I don't want to have to plan today what I might want to watch tomorrow or the day after so I can start a download early enough.

Until HD-movies can be streamed in the same quality as they come on disc, without the slightest hiccup, and with all the features (subtitles, sound options, etc.) that you have on a disc, there's no chance in hell people will want to give up the ease-of-use of BR/HD/low-def DVD.

Not to mention people like myself who like having a whole wall filled with DVDs.

You know just as well as I do that when those kinds of downloads/streams become possible, there'll be DRM all over the place to keep you from making any back-ups. Piracy will rise again, and then I will be part of it.

# February 5, 2007 1:05 AM

Chap said:

Perhaps if the HD-DVD were to actually release some movies blu-ray wouldn't be catching up.  These next 2 weeks in releases speak VOLUMES on  whats happening right now.  There are 20 Blu-Ray releases, and there are 2, thats right TWO HD-DVD titles coming out.  WTF???

# February 5, 2007 3:59 AM

Rask said:

Here's my big beef with digital downloads in regards to movies and specifically the Live service (were it available in Canada).

You don't own the movie and therefore can't re-watch it at your leisure like you would with a physical disk.

That fact alone turns me off to digital downloads altogether were you able for a flat fee of 2500 MSPoints own a movie and be able to re-watch it indefinately like you do with TV shows, then it would be a different story.

Here's a Q to you Ozy(but odds are that you won't be able to answer this one due to NDA's, Company line and all) :

Would Microsoft consider licensing the tech and implementing a Blu-Ray add-on drive were HD-DVD to die in the near or not-so-near future?

# February 5, 2007 5:53 AM

Fenris said:

Ozy,

I respect your boog more than most but I think you are reaching on calling physical media dead. Most of the people who read you blog are closer to the cutting edge as far as technology, the common person will always have an affinity for a tangable physical media. There is a connection that occurs when interacting with a solid object, this connection is more abstract with a digital object. Most people cannot make the mental digital connection, whereas the mental physical connection is accessable to everyone.

# February 5, 2007 7:35 AM

Ozymandias said:

Re: "I respect your boog more than most but I think you are reaching on calling physical media dead. Most of the people who read you blog are closer to the cutting edge as far as technology, the common person will always have an affinity for a tangable physical media. There is a connection that occurs when interacting with a solid object, this connection is more abstract with a digital object. Most people cannot make the mental digital connection, whereas the mental physical connection is accessable to everyone."

I actually agree with you a great deal. For example, I don't think books will go purely digital for a long, long time, if ever. There's something about the experience of reading a physical book, turning the pages, its portability, and legibility that is a part of the experience. But I think movies are different - the experience is in the viewing, not in the holding of the physical disc.

To be clear, I think five years from now we'll still have optical media around. It's a decade from now that I really have to wonder. There may still be physical ways to buy the content (to appease those people who really want to hold something), but my guess is that most content will be distributed electronically (and robustly, to everyone's point).

# February 5, 2007 8:26 AM

Trellium said:

Posts still going missing.

# February 5, 2007 8:51 AM

Trellium said:

There is a difference between "still around" and the primary focus of sales. The floppy disk is "still around" but it isn't the cornerstone of computing.

I think the 5 year estimate for making HiDef disks into the floppy diskette of today is more than enough. The reason is that every computer sold had at least one floppy disk drive in it for years. This is not true of HiDef disks.

Both formats will be the Betamax of this decade. Neither will catch on since online delivery can do much more, much cheaper, much faster. Having lots of things readily available for a low price is what our society is all about, and I think that the time it will take for Bluray and HD DVD to cut costs down to being mass consumer items is longer than the startup time of these new online delivery systems.

I am banking on Bill Gates being right, and it makes perfect sense to do so.

# February 5, 2007 8:56 AM

Aedrin said:

Let me know after a year.

2-4 weeks means nothing.

This isn't a proper sample, it's a snapshot that has $0 value.

# February 5, 2007 10:23 AM

people are stupid said:

why do you need to spend $5000+ when you can download movies to computer in 10mins and you are ready to watch it???

people are so stupid

# February 5, 2007 10:53 AM

JohnCz said:

Oz, I hope that IPTV will be developed/worked into the MC/Extender platform and not just XBox.

# February 5, 2007 1:55 PM

MH4 said:

Of course, if you compare titles released on both, then HD DVD is clearly doing better. (Try "Beerfest" for example at http://www.hdgamedb.com/amazon/history.aspx)

In the last month, BD has released 8-10 titles a week compared to HD's 2-5, of course BD would be seeing better sales.

# February 5, 2007 2:34 PM

Islandkiwi said:

I'm certainly not buying either format, although I'm perfectly willing to rent.  I believe downloading will become mainstream within the next five years...Netflix has already started it in select markets.

Pay 20-30 dollars for a movie?  I'd rather pay 3 (or better yet, pay a netflix-like subscription) and watch what I want, when I want.  I rewatch a movie once a year...maybe.  Why own it?

# February 5, 2007 5:28 PM

SaD Dr CrAfTy said:

I think that microsoft needs to release it's hd dvddrive more quickly in europe, some country's have it but, here the netherlands it's not out.

I think it will be better to bring it out before the ps3 in a microsoft way of thinking.

# February 8, 2007 10:35 AM