Ozymandias

Nope.

I find it amazing that there's still such a huge demand for it.  You'd think the word would have gotten out that it's actually a fairly disappointing console.

I'm currently playing Super Paper Mario.  The story seems like it was written by a 12 year old, but its still a fairly entertaining Mario game.

Since SPM isn't out in Europe I haven't played it since January apart from once when my 9yr old nephew was round.

Agreed...I bought a Wii at launch and it just sits next to my TV collecting dust.  The only time I turn it on is to get an update...AKA make the annoying blue light go away!  The VC is boring...old games I thought were fun as a kid, but now that I'm older they are pretty boring.  They really need to court some third-party casual devs, or create an in-house one and make some new stuff.  I've had a 360 since launch, and it is on at least 2-3 hours a day doing something, MCE, music, movies, etc...but I'm way beyond the $399 invested.  The Wii was cool but right now they need some cool games...and please, don't whore the Wii-mote anymore...just make games.  I could care less if they have motion controls.  At this point, I'd like my $249 back...

I have a lot of roomates so i spend a lot of time playing wii tennis and bowling.  Smooth Moves is good for multiplayer too.  I also still have at least 15 hrs left to go in zelda.  

Honestly, though, the main reason i got the wii was for wii sports and the other casual games and its really come through for me;  never before have I gotten my girlfriend to play games with me and actually enjoy it.  Im hoping Wii Degree will get her to play even more.  

Dont get me wrong, however, I am still gonna crap my pants when the real "gamer games" of Smash, Metroid, and Mario come out.  I will also definately pick up both Resident evil titles even though Ive already betean RE:4 on gamecube.

To be fair, I rarely play on my 360 anymore.  I played Crackdown to death (didn't take as long as I'd hoped), Lost Planet crashed continually and Gears of War was a bit short too.  Other than that there hasn't been a decent game in quite some time, and I have limited time/bandwidth for multiplayer sessions (I just play for short periods to relax and relieve stress now).

Here's hoping it's the quiet before the storm, as it were.

Waiting for Super Paper Mario still in Europe, but last time I used my Wii was Wario Ware at a party a month or so ago.

What?  I came here expecting to read pages of Nintendo Fanboy ranting?  Where is it?  Ah, oh well.  I've played Wii sports a few times and I've yet to be impressed.  I suppose since my wife plays games like GRAW2 and Gears of War with me I really have no use for a Wii.

I just finished another level of Paper Mario last night (I'm up to world 6 now), and am savoring it like a fine wine because I don't see much coming.  I use the wii to supplement my 360 games.  Like you I'm a gamefly member, so what I've done is buy a couple of wii games, and mainly play them while I'm waiting for the 360 games to come in the mail.  That said, with the weak 360 offering this month, I'll be spending more wii time. (Unless Catan sucks it all up).

It does remind me of the DS launch, some nice titles in the beginning but then about a year before anything else was released. I remember playing more GBA games on it than DS games. Now it's better, and the 3rd party titles are better.  And look at the system sales... It just seems to me like Nintendo systems are geologically slow with new games after a launch.

My wii also get's a lot of hot hot party action, everyone still wants to play wii sports.

I think the wii will still be racking up sales next spring.  I'd rather have fewer high quality titles than an assload of things like Bullet Witch.

Oh, and Paper Mario is hilarious - very much a tongue in cheek story, with a whole chapter devoted to all things high-techonlogical.

Jeff I bet that if your wife plays games like those my girlfriend is totally hotter.

Im just kidding dude, props for finding a gaming girl--im jealous.  

Im digressing from the topic here but now that im thinking of it, hopefully the girl gaming population will grow with this generation of consoles and particularly with the wii.  Miyamoto and his "wife-o-meter"(which he covered in his keynote at the GDC) and the way he saw her slowly get more interested into gaming (starting with causual games like nintendogs and slowly getting into more hardcore games until he came home and found her playing T.P.) is particularly promising.

ok that was poorly written and way off topic but i have to get back to work now so bye

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Actually, still haven't put more than 2 hours into it. Touched Zelda for 10 minutes, and that's as long as I could stand it; sold RRR after finding out the controls make it nearly unplayable anyway; Wii Sports is good for kiddies and people who don't get videogames; Red Steel is a really bad game, poor control or not.

No sign of Super Paper Mario over here, not even a release date - once again showing what Nintendo thinks of Europe.

From the piles of unsold Wiis around these parts, I'd say the feelings are mutual.

Meanwhile, my 360 is burning up from all the Guitar Hero II I've been playing.

I actually sold mine.  Once I realized that Zelda was disappointing, and that novelty controllers didn't make minigames like Rayman or Wii Sports magically fun for more than about 20 minutes, it wasn't worth putting up with the godawful hideous graphics any more.  

My 360 still gets regular play (except that at the moment, it's died yet again -- the fourth time was not the charm, apparently -- and I'm waiting for yet another box to whisk it off to McAllen, TX).

I did want a Wii but I was almost certain the 'novelty' factor of it would wear off and once I'd played a few hours of Wii sports, I wouldn't touch it. I feel like I've made the right decision. Lots of people seem to have gotten over the fun factor and now don't play it that much. I think you're right, I think it is destined to go the way of the 'Cube. There wasn't that many great games for that over it's lifetine and it slowly faded away. I can see the Wii doing the same.

I had a Wii/Guitar Hero 2 party this weekend. The Wii was popular but we had to start a sign up sheet for GH2 because people couldn't get enough of it. With the Wii people spent more time creating Miis that actually playing games. I almost never play the Wii alone but it's great when you have a group that aren't really "gamers".  

I've been quite disappointed with my Wii as well. Every 3rd party title that I have rented has been junk. I do play a bit of paper mario now and again. But, overall, my Wii only gets played when I have people over. I'm getting far more play time out of the 360. I wish Nintendo would spend sometime to make an actual online service. And, I wish 3rd party games were better. I also wish the 360 had more/better party games. Then I wouldn't need the Wii at all.

you know i think you're right shuttlemoomin. . . chances are that the 6 million+ units sold in the first six months (just under 1/3 of what the gamecube sold in its entire 5&1/2 year span) are a fluke.  Chances are the the $400 average pricetag for a wii on ebay is just a lucky start for the boys from kyoto.  Chances are that the majority of financial analysts (both from inside and outside the industry) whom picked the wii to win this generation are wrong and you are right.

Sorry to sound like a sarcastic fanboy (though i do not deny being one), but i think its terrible forsight to think that the wii will do as poorly as the gamecube did.  The potential for new gamers alone could see to that.  

I can provide sources for the analysts if you want, but again i really should work.

I will play Wario Ware or Wii Sports with the kids here and there, but that's about it. (GH2 has become the new hit party game). I'm not buying any games at all for it and am somewhat bored by it. I'm very curious as to the Wiis attach rate. The 360 is still where I spend most of my time and it's the superior console IMO. I have to say that the Wii graphics are irritating to me. It's hard to play all these good looking games on the 360 and then take a step down in graphics to play the Wii. I know I know... gameplay is important and all, but it's still really hard to see the downgraded graphics.

I'm not.  I played Wii Sports the most, Zelda and Paper Mario about the only games worth playing besides Wii Sports.  I just don't see much coming out that i'm interested in playing on the Wii.  Not sure why it's taking developers so long to get on the Wii-train and get stuff out for it, they've sold almost as many units as Microsoft has.  Anyway since developers don't know what to do with it and there's a total lack of quality games especially exclusives, i'm actually selling mine off to a buddy.  I'll pick up a wii again in a year if there's some worth while stuff for it.  But right now, i think people would get better game play out of spending an extra $50 on a 360 Core unit instead.  Sure there's no cool motion controlled controller but i'd rather have games to play with a traditional controller than nothing to play with a new controller technology.

I'm in the same boat--the Wii is really only played with friends who haven't played before and the times they return to play again.  I used to train in tennis and I got my score to 1800--but then it just turns into a grind to get to 2000.

I enjoyed zelda a lot and I'm having fun with paper mario--but the Wii isn't a hardcore gamer's console yet.  there aren't any games that you can get lost in (like on xbox/ps).  

crossing my fingers as well for the upcoming releases that can salvage the Wii!

Hoenstly, all three consoles are resting right now.  I'm playing Catan on the 360 and folding with the ps3, but the Wii hasn't been on since I put in 4 hours with Super Paper Mario.  Out of the three the ps3 has done the worst with regards to playtime.

Well, I bought my Wii around a month after I got my 360 (around 2 months by now since I got the Wii) and I must say that, despite outbanking the 360 in my game hours for the first 3 days, its now mainly collecting dust. I find Wii Sports mediocre (a tennis game in which I can't even move my character? WTF!?), almost every game I tried is simply unplayable (Sonic, Call of Duty, Dragon Ball...) and of all I tried I only really ended spending time with Tiger Woods (I like golf, easily understable then), Gottlieb Pinball Classics because my father likes pinball and we play once in a blue moon and Red Steel because I find the control much better than CoD3 myself. On the other hand I must say that iis internet channel (Opera software) is a key success for the machine though, allowing my father to start knowing the internet a bit without having to use my computers (if he touches any of them he is dead man).

On the other hand there is no day I do not switch on my 360 I must say

This console generation is showing the importance of games.  Since the 360 has a year head start, there are a lot more good games, but the Wii and PS3 are kinda lacking in good games.  The Wii has too many mini-games and not enough games that have in depth plots AND innovative controls (like Zelda).  After trying COD on the Wii, I'm convinced the Wii wasn't made for shooters, as they're much better on the traditional controllers.  One thing the Wii needs is better online support.  It needs some good online games with the ease of having a username instead of a 16 digit code.

Personally, I there hasn't really been any games that have interested me so I only have Wii Sports and Zelda.  It's probably been about a month since I played my Wii.  I really hope some more really innovative games are released in the future.  I'm kinda looking forward to Wii Music.  It looks like it has the potential to be fun and innovative.

I stayed away from the Wii and I'm glad I did.  

For the very few games I would enjoy playing, there's a slew of licenced shovelware titles from kiddy shows, a buunch of games from genres I don't overly care for and the rest are sub-par version of games I can get for the PC or the 360.

Frankly I figure I would play a Wii almost as much as I play my DS Lite, little to not at all.

"Frankly I figure I would play a Wii almost as much as I play my DS Lite, little to not at all."

Ironically enough, while I rarely use the Wii, I do use the DS a damn lot (although is true that is not been yet a month since I've got it)

I got my DS Lite a couple months before I got the Wii.  I definitely use the DS lite more, even when I'm sitting in my living room, and both are easily accessible.  There are just more games, and more better games.  

That said, I'm not really using my 360 much, either.  I should pick up Crackdown or finally finish GoW.

Try Catan if you're looking for something new... it's a great port of the boardgame, and easy enough to learn. First time through you'll be a bit confused, but it all starts gelling and is quite a lot of fun.

As to Paper Mario - fair point to all who have played it. I haven't tried yet - sounds like that might be the one to go for next time I want some Wii time. Sort of hard now that it's Spring/Summer here in Seattle - we have to take advantage of the sun while it's here you know! ;)

@polezo: While I'm not denying for a second that the Wii has sold  very, very well and that demand is still very high, I was questioning how many of those sold are still played regularly, and judging by the small amount of posts here, it seems that my feelings are so far proved right: People want a Wii due to it's image and the boost that the demand has done to that, but no one I know who has one bothers with it these days and it seems they're not alone. How many people have bought a Wii and are 110% happy with the purchase so far and feel they've got their money's worth of entertainment out of it? Maybe not all that many. Just my opinion, that's all.

 I queued up for a cube. I rushed home and got playing and also liked that fact I had one. I got some good gaming out of it but the hit games stopped coming and I stopped playing the cube at all. I can still see the Wii ending up the same way. I've seen little to make me think differently so far.

I haven't touched my 360 in ages apart from playing DVDs and the occasional Live Arcade demo. £50 a game is just too far above my budget.

I've been playing though Sonic and the Secret Rings on the Wii every now and then, it can be a right *** of a game some times, but it is actually an amazing 3D Sonic, a proper return to what made Sonic great.

But most of my game playing has been on the PS2. Okami is stunning and Guitar Hero 2 (especially for multiplayer) is simply brilliant.

I've also been playing indie stuff on the PC.

I haven't been playing my Wii all that much at all. I do enjoy playing the occasional game of Super Swing Golf though. My two most recent purchases were SSX Blur and Super Paper Mario.

SSX Blur was a disappointment, they stripped some things that gave the game it's charm. The controls kind of work but as I suspected it can be quirky if you're not very precise about it. I've since got rid of the game.

Paper Mario is probably the only new recent game that's good (In my humble opinion). Even then I barely play on the console. Not to say Paper Mario isn't a good game.

The only thing I'm looking forward to right now is a port of a gamecube game, Resident Evil 4. Other than that the only other game that seems interesting is MySims: http://mysims.ea.com/

Yep I def know what you are talking about!  The only time I play it is when someone stops over whom has never seen one before and wants to try it. I have to amit Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix looks interesting. I think the reason why I don't really buy games for it is because I want the game for the 360 because of the Gamer points

I play hours of DBZ on my Wii, with good breaks of "Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine".

My Wii is on hiatus right now, but then again, so was my 360 after I realized that PDZ was garbage (about 15 minutes after the title screen).

I hardly fire up my Wii.  I got it on launch day on an impulse since I happened to be at Target when they brought them out.  I picked up Zelda, played it about halfway through, and went back to the 360.  I keep telling myself I will finish Zelda, because I've loved and played through every other one, but Twilight Princess just doesn't "move" me the way other Zelda games did.

Nothing else has come out that interests me.  The Wii is handy when a group of people come over--Wii tennis and Wario Ware were a hit at my BBQ last week.  But that's the only action my Wii has seen in at least a month.  I've been considering selling it now, since there is still demand for the console, and I can probably buy one down the road when there's something I actually want to play.

My 360 gets constant use... still play Halo 2 with friends at least once a week, GHII and arcade have been in heavy rotation, as has GRAW 2.  Once Halo 3 (beta and game) hit, that's all I will be playing.

Bought a Wii at launch. After playing with it for a few weeks I learned the dirty little secret about the Wii. THE CONTROLLER DOESN'T WORK. The remote was suppose to make games simpler, but it doesn't. It's half baked technology. I als came to the realization that I payed $250 for a second GameCube. Sold my Wii and bought a 360. Couldn't be happier.

hahaha. it seems most people have bought a wii and never play it! including me! its a shame, it has great potential, just no games that are really interesting now the novelty has worn off.

Anyone still playing their 360?

Ozymandias abit of a cheeky thread considering the lack of AAA title's you're released thus far in 2007. Microsoft have released  err.. 1.. Crackdown which was pretty short but sweet.

Moral of the story.. get your own back garden sorted before taking a pop at others.

>considering the lack of AAA title's you're released thus far in 2007.

Lost Planet not AAA enough? GRAW 2 ring a bell? Guitar Hero friggin' II with 10 new songs and downloadable content is peanuts? Shivering Isles I could count out, it's more of a AAAA title than anything.

Also, almost every single title that's been released on PS3 is currently on 360.

Meanwhile, AAA titles released in 2007 by Nintendo (and/or Sony): Super Paper Mario, except your tag points that you're in Europe like me, so we've both got a big fat zilch.

Lost planet was nice looking but an average(shooter), GRAW2 nice looking same same as GRAW 1(shooter), Guitar hero 2 is quality but I refuse to buy due to the DLC pricing out of princple, Shivering isles is an expansion so cannot be included.. so the list is 2 shooters and Guitar with the over priced DLC and with GH3 coming later this year with coop? err.. need i said more?

no AAA No RPG's

no AAA adventures

no AAA action games

I agree the latter half of 2007 should be great IF Mass Effect and Too human live up to billing!

I have to agree, 2007 isn't starting out very fast.  But after the hord of AAA games that came out in November that i'm still playing, i'm not complaining about it either.

But we've got C&C3, Shadowrun and Forza all coming in May.  But just because you don't like or don't want to buy a AAA title, doesn't exclude it from the list.

I didn't buy GHII either but mostly because it's pretty much a PS2 port.  I also didn't buy Lost Planet.  But I did buy Crackdown and Graw2, both short and sweet and both AAA.

"it wasn't worth putting up with the godawful hideous graphics any more."

I've seen both PS3 and 360's graphics enough, and to make such a statement is just ridiculous. If you really think graphics will make up for gameplay then that's sad.

I think all consoles are doing very weak right now. Few  quality games. To single out the Wii because everyone expects it to do great is a bit unfair.

It's all about target groups. Perhaps the Wii is more for casual players. A hardcore gamer will chow through the gameplay in a weekend, while a casual gamer would play it a few hours a week. And take a month or more to complete it.

not at all! Not for 2 months, the fun has worn off.  i hope they can make some compelling games beause there is nothing out that has me interested.

My Wii has dust on it - so NO.

The 360 was slighly worse last year this time around with amount of games, something me and my friends complained about last year.

You had like 3 good games at launh or near it (Oblibion, Fight Night, GRAW), and nothing until Saints Row hit in the summer.  Then again a drought till GOW.  its finally picked up speed big time as everybody caught up to it.

Im sure its the fact that most publishers don't want to commit to an unsure console if it doesn't sell up to expectations.  

I think the Wii did a good job of offsetting this with some a good amount of quality 1st party games so you won't be caught months not playing the Wii at all (like the break I took last year on the 360).

Sony on the other hand did drop the ball slightly with having so many of their exclusives pushed way back (FFXIII, MGS) and not having enough at launch.

TO compete with 360 the PS3 needed a lot of games at launch and soona fter that were exlcusive to the console.

I wonder how game sell do for the wii. I've bought one game with the system and i probably won t buy anything else until Resident evil games come out.

I got to admit that the novelty of the wii disapeared for me really quickly...

I feel the wii was a ripp off.The wiimote is fun,but it s not precice enough ...You really need to be drunk to enjoy it.:)... nintendo just find a way to sell us a 2nd gamecube...

But go figure it seem every body wan t a wii...I wonder why microsoft do not realese the same kind of control for the 360...if that what people wan t give it to them...

I have to say, though I already stated that I don't play mine much, I do think it complements the 360 (or PS3, depending on your flavor) very nicely.  If I'm not in the mood for a traditional game, or don't want to sit for an extended period, the Wii is there.  Its good for some quick sessions of bowling or golf if I want to.  

All the Wii needs right now, IMO, is GAMES!  Its not that I don't want to like the system, or that all I want to play is my 360--its just that the games I want to play as an adult male are not generally Cooking Mama, Shrek, Pokemon, or another cutesy Mario.  Not that those are necessarily bad games--quite the contrary.  But I want titles aimed a little more at my tastes.  I'm still waiting on one.

Actually I've been playing more the past couple weeks than I did when I got the system.  Super Paper Mario & Excite Truck have sucked up a lot of time the past few weeks.

Here's the bottom line. Nintendo basically said it wasn't trying to compete with Sony and Microsoft. They already stated that The Wii isn't going to be graphically amazing. Simply put, it would be fun. And, it is. I'm sorry, but making specific motions like for bowling or punching left and right in Godfather is a lot more rewarding than...say, hitting the A button. Remember though, 360 had a year advantage over all the other systems. There were some flukes in its lifecycle too. The Wii has only begun.....

I will say that mine is collecting dust as well. I've honestly had thoughts of ebaying it. I'm enjoying my 360 way too much and whoever came up with the idea for achievements is a genius :)

Ok, I'm not sure what all the fuss is about... I constantly have friends asking to borrow my Wii, and I constantly miss it when they have it... sure, the beefed up consoles are going to get more productivity, they are freakin' computers for christ's sake... but the Wii is strictly a home family hub, for kids, adults, and old people to enjoy some technological advances without having to have all the technical know-how... notice how the menus and even the controllers were simplified from the multi-finger button mashing of yesterday... ok, I agree Spider-Man 3 could have been better graphically, but honestly I'm not concentrating on what the buildings look like when I'm web-slinging, just where I'm f-ing going... and for anyone who says they don't play their Wii on a regular basis: Tiger Woods Golf... get it, master the Wii-mote, and then tell me how much attention your Wii gets...

I agree with Spidey C totally. If you are looking for superior graphics, Wii isn't the way to go. I mean, almost everything the 360/PS3 can do, i have already. I have a dvd player,(Screw hd dvd/blue-ray, Bambi wouldn't look any different)....my computer does, basically everthing!! I want a new way to play. I admit some games aren't very responsive, (damn you Wii Boxing...) but again, this is the first round of Wii games. Developers didn't think Nintendo was going in the right direction, but, 6 million units sold, and counting, in 6 months made a beleiver out of them all. Support is coming from every direction. Even developers who make only PC games are now jumping to develope for Wii.

One way to stop all this. Do what i did. Get a job, make some money, buy all 3. that way you wont miss out. simple!

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