Ozymandias

This insane Sony posturing is a clear sign to me that the ship is sinking. Even if you add up all of the exclusives they've lost + PlayStation 2 titles yet to be released and Blu Ray movies you wouldn't get that figure.

I just don't see a profit motive behind keeping the PS3 going, at this price point. They are dumping a tremendous amount of money into fixing things that are broken (immersion controller), the juggernauting bad PR machine, I could go on and on...

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for even more Schadenfreude check out the ESRB site to see how many PS3 games are in the pipeline- not many.

Some of the "PS3" online-only titles are probably old PS1 (and maybe PS2) emulated games. That's the only way I can get anywhere near 180 download titles in that timeframe.

Yeah, that's going to be hard for Sony to do.  At 33.3 retail games a month, that would mean a new retail game every single day until next March.  With the downloadable games, that would be one retail and one downloadable title every day.  I'd like to see them try.  :P

get your ring of death and dvd drive right first. no point buying a console that can't even do its own functions properly.

don't say disc scratch is because of moving consoles, it DOES scratches discs without moving consoles. PROVEN. GET YOUR FACTS right

And by "proven" you mean "not," right?

Pro-Sony trolls crack me up.

"get your ring of death and dvd drive right first. no point buying a console that can't even do its own functions properly.

don't say disc scratch is because of moving consoles, it DOES scratches discs without moving consoles. PROVEN. GET YOUR FACTS right"

Enjoy grilling hamburgers on your PS3. That's about all it's good for.

I'd take a perfectly functional Turbo Grafx 16 over that thing... had more classic titles.

The sad part is that Sony seems to be assuming that all of its current/potential customers are just dumb. They showed this with the Killzone/Motorstorm "this is real footage" at E3, and now by trying to trick people into believing that 380 titles will be released by next march.

No publisher would even dream of releasing games in a month with 33 games to compete with (not counting downloads) on the same system, plus with competition on the different consoles.

There just isn't enough market share to fight over, especially on the PS3.

They might be able to get that many titles out, if they emulate a lot of the Atari 2600 titles over to PS3, and sell them individually.  They then might be able to hit that deadline.  :)

Ozy, you could at least get your facts right before posting...

From Gamespot:

"105 Blu-ray disc games and about 40 PlayStation Network games and game packs" would arrive in North America by March 31, 2008."

The remainder of the 380 are in other territories, like Europe and Japan.

I don't think the *DS* has that many individual titles out thus far. I swear Sony's PR guys only open their mouth to change which foot is firmly stuck in their throat.

i am an idiot because i am an xbot.

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I like misappropriated comments. they make me happy. Sony Trolls.

How does Sony expect their customers to buy even a fraction of those games and why would publishers be willing to toss their game into a meat grinder like that?

I could see them achieving this goal if they license every movie to come out and let up on their quality assurance, but this doesn't seem to be anything more than a "Look how many games WE have!" kind of tactic.

Most consumers will probably still be focused on the plethora of AAA titles that are coming out for all platforms this Christmas.

Where are these retail games coming from? Are they saying they have enough titles already in development and on schedule to ship in these time frames? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there are enough development houses out there to provide that amount of titles in the time frame. People don't care about quantity, they care about quality. That's what was wrong with the PS2. Shelves creaking with substandard titles thrown in amongst the jems by companies wishing to cash in on the platforms popularity. That most certainly is not happening with this iteration. I see this as nothing but a ridiculous statement to try to show faith in the platform. Since they've done nothing but promise things they've failed to deliver on time and time again, who would still believe them? They're grasping at straws and barring a miracle shift in the industry, Sony are coming out bottom this generation. And I'm sure they know it.

Re: "105 Blu-ray disc games and about 40 PlayStation Network games and game packs" would arrive in North America by March 31, 2008."

Do you have a source URL for this? I'm happy to add it to the original post as another data point. I was commenting on what Kaz apparently said - and still stand by those numbers not being achievable.

Source URL for smarmyhost:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=26024

IMO those numbers are too big anyway :)

Here you go Ozy: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=26024

Still, 145 is not a shabby number to aim for, although I can't remember anywhere near that number of titles being already announced.

40 PSN titles in the next 9 months (~40 weeks) thats matching XBLA so you'd imagine it's doable.

That just leaves ~2 titles being released a week boxed.

And like you said there'll be holiday rushes and quiet times... so to me it sounds achievable, but again you're promising what third parties can or can't deliver.

Of course they can say its retroactive because it would be April 07 -> March 08 - "We promised 145 in that fiscal year!".

When i saw the topic titel i tought why 380 and nog 360 ;)

When are you guys gonna stop people like Sufoor from 360gamesaves.com from hacking the achievement system. This guy is flagrantly taunting you and destroying the system.

I think he has 100% achievements in every game now- and a gamerscore over 160,000.

Microsoft's inability to cancel these accounts is doing more harm to the 360 than scratched discs and three red rings of death.

Seriously...

My earlier comment lost?

I meant to say "doesn't gain traction" instead of "does can traction".  I apologize for my grammar/typos.

"When are you guys gonna stop people like Sufoor from 360gamesaves.com from hacking the achievement system. This guy is flagrantly taunting you and destroying the system.

I think he has 100% achievements in every game now- and a gamerscore over 160,000.

Microsoft's inability to cancel these accounts is doing more harm to the 360 Seriously..."

Nobody cares, that is why. Nobody would care if he had 5 trillion points. It doesn't affect their gaming or their achievements, or their truskill ranking. It only affects people like you who have nothing better to complain about.

wow i am a 360 owner but i have to say this guy is an idiot.

You know Ozy, the fact that you let this crap go on in your blog is disappointing. I won't post anything anymore, for you Sony trolls...

get a life

XBOX360

Dreamcast

Turbografx16

Gizmondo...... all better than the PS3.

cc99999 what is wrong with you? surely you have better things to do in your life?

how can you call me an sony troll when i have all three consoles? moron!

An earlier poster alluded to the fact that even if they do have such a huge roster of titles for their customers to choose from- this will have a net effect of bleeding out the customer base from each title. If you erode enough support away from each game- especially if there's a really huge title to compete with- there's an even greater chance that each particular title won't ber able to break even with its costs. Combined with a small installed base and you'll find the effects even more dramatic in this regard.

With a low installed base, the best way to keep third parties happy is to restrict the number of options consumers have, and gradually open the floodgates until the market can sustain more and more games effectively. It's a difficult balance for any company that produces hardware-but an essential one for the early stages

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Cyber-Boy shall rise again- long live XG

@AnubisGOJ

That's a great point, if they aren't just blowing smoke, opening the floodgates to a bunch of craptastic ports and hastily thrown together games will do the PS3 much more harm than good.

I would be very surprised if all the title they allude to are already in development. Anything a dev starts now and finishes by March 2008 would probably be average at best (by that I mean full retail games, not PSN games).